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Are there any non-Apple laptops yet where you can just close the lid and put the laptop in your bag and not worry about it being on?


It’s funny that this is even remotely a concern in 2026. We have computers you can talk to but Windows laptops maybe won’t go to sleep in your backpack.

I do hope that it’s fixed though. I haven’t followed Windows laptops that closely, but my work laptop from a few years ago does lose battery surprisingly quickly when “sleeping”.


I don't think going with windows is the move if you're trying to have sleep working like in a macbook. Too many stories of laptops waking up for no good reason.

Linux on the other hand has always been able to sleep as expected. I'm definitely advocating for panther lake + linux. Not panther lake + windows, which I hoped was clear given the context of the parent comment.


Idk, searching online gives me lots of results where people are complaining about Linux battery life when sleeping.

I haven’t used a Linux laptop in over a decade personally, so can’t really speak to that much though.

What I do know is that Windows sucks and macOS has absurdly good battery life, both in active use and in sleep.


> What I do know is that Windows sucks and macOS has absurdly good battery life, both in active use and in sleep.

Ever since lunar lake (intel's prev-gen ultrabook chip), this isn't even true anymore.

And now with panther lake, competing windows and macOS laptops do have comparable active use battery life, especially when comparing against macbook airs which do sometimes lose because of their smaller batteries.

This guy: https://www.youtube.com/@JustJoshTech does really good battery tests (brightness at 300 nits, looped office tasks, wifi on, BT on), and a number of windows laptops match even the 14in macbooks pros. That macbook pro already gets noticably more battery life than both the 13 and 15in macbook air.

For a specific example ,the current XPS14 without the OLED (meaning the base 1200p screen) will have hours more battery life than any macbook. If you're looking for "absurdly good battery life", both macOS and windows laptops can give you this today. Your last comment hasn't been true (at least for active use) for at least since lunar lake came out (end of 2024).


Let me wax poetics here. Apple has been chasing the dream of the portable computer for so long, and has been at the forefront of the ultimate form factor of the personal computer, the laptop, since the early 90s. It's not surprising to me that the company that made an OS for everything, and a project to make an OS for everything, cannot figure out a reliable way to bring us a bicycle for the mind where you just close the lid.

Only Apple has been laser-focused to give us this experience.


I've had my Framework (w/Arch and KDE) since 2022 and have yet to have any problems with sleep. I can safely unplug from my monitor/dock, close the lid, and drop it in my bag. It's never tried to cook itself while in sleep.

Battery life in sleep (and in general) could be better, but on the whole I've been quite happy with it.


You can go into Windows settings and change what happens when you close the lid to hibernate or power down.


That is more like a “wish” in windows.




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