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I think that people who don't believe LLMs to be AGI are not very good at Venn diagrams. Because they certainly are artificial, general, and intelligent according to any dictionary.


Good grief. You are deeply confused and/or deeply literal. That's not the accepted definition of AGI in any sense. One does not evaluate each word has an isolated component for testing the truth of a statement in an open compound word. Does your "living room" have organs?

For your edification:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligenc...


It is that or you can't recognize a tongue-in-cheek comment on goalpost shifting. Wiki page you linked has the original definition of the term from 1997, dig it up. Better yet, look at the history of that page in Wayback machine and see with your own eyes how ChatGPT release changed it.

For reference, 1997 original: By advanced artificial general intelligence, I mean AI systems that rival or surpass the human brain in complexity and speed, that can acquire, manipulate and reason with general knowledge, and that are usable in essentially any phase of industrial or military operations where a human intelligence would otherwise be needed.

2014 wiki requirements: reason, use strategy, solve puzzles, and make judgments under uncertainty; represent knowledge, including commonsense knowledge; plan; learn; communicate in natural language; and integrate all these skills towards common goals.


By this argument the DEA is the FBI because they are also a federal bureau that does investigations.


I'm dead right now.


You're funny, but "the DEA" is "a FBI", not "the FBI", as you said yourself.


That’s not how language works.


That's precisely how language works in most cases, and there does not seem to be any reason to think it is different in this one.

Although if you look at the trajectory of goalposts since https://web.archive.org/web/20140327014303/https://en.wikipe... , I could concede the point, that people discarded the obvious definition in the light of recent events.


No, it's really not. Joining words into a compound word enables the new compound to take on new meaning and evolve on its own, and if it becomes widely used as a compound it always does so. The term you're looking for if you care to google it is an "open compound noun".

A dog in the sun may be hot, but that doesn't make it a hot dog.

You can use a towel to dry your hair, but that doesn't make the towel a hair dryer.

Putting coffee on a dining room table doesn't turn it into a coffee table.

Spreading Elmer's glue on your teeth doesn't make it tooth paste.

The White House is, in fact, a white house, but my neighbor's white house is not The White House.

I could go on, but I think the above is a sufficient selection to show that language does not, in fact, work that way. You can't decompose a compound noun into its component morphemes and expect to be able to derive the compound's meaning from them.


You wrote so much while failing to read so little:

> in most cases

What do you think will happen if we will start comparing the lengths of the list ["hot dog", ...] and the list ["blue bird", "aeroplane", "sunny March day", ...]?


No, I read that, and it's wrong. Can you point me to a single compound noun that works that way?

A bluebird is a specific species. A blue parrot is not a bluebird.

An aeroplane is a vehicle that flies through the air at high speeds, but if you broke it down into morphemes and tried to reason it out that way you could easily argue that a two-dimensional flat surface that extends infinitely in all directions and intersects the air should count.

Sunny March day isn't a compound noun, it's a noun phrase.

Can you point me to a single compound noun (that is, a two-or-more-part word that is widely used enough to earn a definition in a dictionary, like AGI) that can be subjected to the kind of breaking apart into morphemes that you're doing without yielding obviously nonsensical re-interpretations?


Once a group of words becomes a compound noun, you can’t necessarily look at the individual component words to derive the definition.

A paste made of a ground up tooth is clearly tooth paste because it is both a tooth and paste.


The problem is that a lot of established words have a meaning different from the mere sum of their parts.

For example, “homophobia” literally means “same-fear” - are homophobes afraid of sameness? Do they have an unusual need for variety and novelty?


Then Explain:

Firetruck — It's not a truck that is on fire nor is it a truck that delivers fire.

Butterfly — Not a fly made of butter.

Starfish — Not a fish, not a star.

Pineapple — Neither a pine nor an apple.

Guinea pig — A rodent, not a pig.

Koala bear — A marsupial, not a bear.

Silverfish — An insect, not a fish.


Oh, the irony of using the verb "believe" in the same sentence with Venn diagrams... :)




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