So listening to this show, there's an expert guest, a couple call-ins (including another expert guest) and even a caller who talked about how important the crowd sourcing is, who all more or less say the same thing I'm saying, trying to contribute to wikipedia is a pain because of the overzealous editor's arbitrary and capricious application of largely nonsenical rules -- the foundation representatives? Regurgitation of the guidelines and nonanswers. Then lots of lip service to the importance of crowd sourcing an encyclopedia without acknowledging that the crowd is turning into a very small gang and "let's make new contributors feel more welcome" without any particular ideas presented of how to do it.