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No, that's why it will take open source AI longer to win than it should.


Money talks.

And Open Source has none.


Maybe your git repo with 2 stars doesn’t get money but Open Source projects that thousands of people use do get money. Many countries around the world fund developers to work on open source projects


Where do you think open source AI models and frameworks come from, magical moneyless communist computing fairies?

They come from big businesses who see open source as the most effective way of reaching their goals, and as more of the tech filters out around the world, that will continue to be the case even if regulation makes that less useful in some juriadictions, making both open source in those jurisidctions and the firms that see their benefit in it less competitive.


> Where do you think open source AI models and frameworks come from, magical moneyless communist computing fairies?

Stolen/leaked weights? :).

> big businesses who see open source as the most effective way of reaching their goals

That is the opposite of open source winning, though. Especially with everything becoming a service - SaaS is the ultimate killer of all that open source was supposed to bring to people. That SaaS is thoroughly built on open source - that's just adding an insult to injury.


> They come from big businesses who see open source as the most effective way of reaching their goals

I think people need to think really hard about what those goals are.

Is it to defeat regulation? To destroy their competitors? Retain talent? Sell their non-free-and-better models?

People don’t just hand millions of dollars out on the street corner.

There’s always a catch.

…and the people using llama and falcon, etc. and enjoying how great it is are being blinded by the shiny toys and not really, imo, thinking about what it means, or how they’re playing someone else’s game.

It’s extremely naive.


There's a nice and terrible thing about grand ambitions. It's that they generally don't come to pass. When people do awful things, motivated by great grand ambitions - we have a horrible society. When people do great things, motivated by awful grand ambitions - we have a great society. So in general I couldn't really care less what somebody's ambitions are when they are any meaningful length of time beyond the present.




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