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I'm curious when things get that pervasive how a system wound up in that state. Did it start out that way, did it slowly creep, did it cross over from other societal interactions that predated it.


I suspect that a lack of corruption is the exception rather than the rule. A good question probably is how it gets to not be like that.


yah that's an interesting angle, the default is corruption. This mirrors that line of thinking with poverty, which is the default in the state of nature is poverty. Just humans standing about trees and rivers and all the natural resources they start with and choose how to direct and shape from their own free will. The analogy there is the default is corruption in the state of society and people tame their selfish desires and other impulses to erect order and justice and other higher level objectives that unlock even higher level objectives. That's an interesting angle to take I'm going to have to think about that a bit.


A good book about systemic corruption is Thieves of State by Sarah Chayes, here's a long review that also discusses the topic: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/01/19/corruption-rev...

For example Egypt is like GP's explanation, that's why when the Arab Spring happened, cops were beating up protestors; the cops were part of the corrupt system and were eager to defend it/themselves.




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