Its kinda amazing to see the cognitive dissonance that people have when it comes to "regulators".
When these regulators get swayed by the car industry into stupid stuff like 25 year import rule, or how they still keep speed limits around which have nothing to do with safety as they are based on outdated MPG savings initiative and end up disproportionally affecting lower income people, they rightfully are criticized.
However, as soon as some manufacturer pops up and does something that the public doesn't like, even for silly reasons like not protecting people from themselves, people immediately jump to wanting the "regulators" to do something about it.
Kinda makes it easy to see who has irrational hate for Tesla/Musk versus those who actually care about technology.
The correct thing for the "regulators" to do is to make it mandatory that every car has the same set of cameras and instruments that Tesla cars do, and that data is streamed to a publicly funded data warehouse where its open source and available for anyone to use.
People with different opinions than yours are not a monolithic entity, so please don't paint me with the same brush as others just because my opinion has more similarities with theirs than with yours. Similarly, regulators are not a monolithic entity, and it is completely possible to want regulators to do one thing while also criticizing them about other things. Otherwise, your post has big "You criticize regulators, yet you want them to do something? Curious!" energy.
> Kinda makes it easy to see who has irrational hate for Tesla/Musk versus those who actually care about technology.
Another broad brush stroke and false dichotomy. It's entirely possible to care about safety before caring about TSLA's shareholder value, which has nothing to do with "irrational hate" or not "caring about technology".
For example, you won't see me complaining about Waymo's self-driving cars, because their program prioritizes safety instead of moving fast and breaking things/bodies. Does that sound like not caring about technology, or can you only care about technology as long as you're completely uncritical of Tesla's blatant disregard for safety?
> The correct thing for the "regulators" to do is to make it mandatory that every car has the same set of cameras and instruments that Tesla cars do, and that data is streamed to a publicly funded data warehouse where its open source and available for anyone to use.
That's just your opinion, and it's certainly convenient for Tesla. The "correct" and ethical thing for Tesla to have done is to keep their beta testing to closed tracks where all participants agree to be experimented only after giving their informed consent and just compensation for the risks involved. Instead, the entire public is being experimented on without their consent, and they're being experimented on by untrained non-professionals.
The "correct" and ethical thing for regulators to do is ensure that Tesla ceases experimentation that can get the public killed and maimed, that the public never consented to.
Similarly, the "correct" and ethical thing for Tesla to do is to not try to portray their Level 2 autonomous system as being Level 4 or greater. Regulators, ideally, would handle that issue, too.
The issue isn't about what you want them to do, the issue is that you are expecting a bunch of non technical people that have no vested interest other than monetary gains through staying in office to create some sort of regulation that notionally protects people from themselves based on the supposed advertising of a piece of tech, and that is an incredibly silly position to ever take for multiple reasons.
Tesla clearly outlines what the autopilot is and isn't, and is not forcing people to use it. If you don't wanna beta test, don't use it. Simple as that. No need for any regulations in the first place. If someone thinks that autopilot means they can go to sleep being the wheel, and they crash, its is 100% their fault, not Teslas, or regulators. You don't blame mountain bike companies because someone decides to take their bike of a jump, go tail up nose down, and smack into the ground, even though their advertising often shows people doing big jumps on said bikes. Be consistent in what you believe.
Also, as far as self driving goes, Waymo isn't as much as pushing for safety as it is burning through VC cash in a giant scam. It started 13 years ago and has zero products. Meanwhile, startup shop Comma AI managed to get self driving highway autonomy system out in 5 years that you can actually buy, on a fraction of the budget.
> When these regulators get swayed by the car industry into stupid stuff like 25 year import rule, or how they still keep speed limits around which have nothing to do with safety as they are based on outdated MPG savings initiative and end up disproportionally affecting lower income people, they rightfully are criticized.
> However, as soon as some manufacturer pops up and does something that the public doesn't like, even for silly reasons like not protecting people from themselves, people immediately jump to wanting the "regulators" to do something about it.
Weird how people want regulations that benefit the community and not regulations that are detrimental. Absolutely impossible to understand this.
I also want everything and everyone to just start working like a well oiled machine as humans live in Utopia, but that is a discussion about fiction, not reality.
When these regulators get swayed by the car industry into stupid stuff like 25 year import rule, or how they still keep speed limits around which have nothing to do with safety as they are based on outdated MPG savings initiative and end up disproportionally affecting lower income people, they rightfully are criticized.
However, as soon as some manufacturer pops up and does something that the public doesn't like, even for silly reasons like not protecting people from themselves, people immediately jump to wanting the "regulators" to do something about it. Kinda makes it easy to see who has irrational hate for Tesla/Musk versus those who actually care about technology.
The correct thing for the "regulators" to do is to make it mandatory that every car has the same set of cameras and instruments that Tesla cars do, and that data is streamed to a publicly funded data warehouse where its open source and available for anyone to use.