This is all a religious war, but at the end of the day something like Rails enables you to come a lot closer to "good design, good programming" than many other systems currently in use, i.e. your less than favourite PHP or Java framework here.
I think that someone who honestly believes PHP has RUINED them may be a bit of a tool. We're programmers, we can figure it out.
> at the end of the day something like Rails enables you to come a lot closer to "good design, good programming" than many other systems currently in use
The same thing's been said about PHP.
And sure, PHP ruins programmers like BASIC does - not at all, if they've some brain cells they can rub together. But it does teach shitty habits which can take time and effort to forget.
This is all a religious war, but at the end of the day something like Rails enables you to come a lot closer to "good design, good programming" than many other systems currently in use, i.e. your less than favourite PHP or Java framework here.
I think that someone who honestly believes PHP has RUINED them may be a bit of a tool. We're programmers, we can figure it out.