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I disagree. But let me know how do you define the line where this electronics should be repairable and the other ones should be DRM locked.


Personally I think the user should choose whether to buy a secure product or not.

I have some open hardware for certain projects, but I am very happy to use Apple products for things like banking and various tasks concerning personal data.

I’m also happy to recommend that non-technical friends use Apple products knowing that the ways that can harm themselves are limited.

I think a lot of people would take a device to a repair kiosk, not understanding the risks, wrongly assuming that they would have some kind of consumer protection.

You aren’t forced to buy an iPhone if you don’t want this.


>You aren’t forced to buy an iPhone if you don’t want this.

Other Android devices are also similarly bad to repair, with a locked Store and few have an supported way to actually root them. The mobile market is not as diverse like car market or say web/cloud hosting market. We can't give Apple or Samsung an exception from warranty laws because "the user should buy X that offers warranty" , free market only works only if all the free market assumptions hold true.


> with a locked Store and few have an supported way to actually root them

This has nothing to do with repairability.

> We can't give Apple or Samsung an exception from warranty laws

We don’t, so it’s not clear why you’re even saying this.


>We don’t, so it’s not clear why you’re even saying this.

Because you demanded the user should chose if the wants a product with the "repairable" feature , so I assume your logic should be consistent and you would also like to have the option to say pay less and get an iPhone with no warranty. For some reasons we force warranty and IMO for the exact same reason we should for basic repair ability ( diagnostic software,schematics, parts and ability to remove the DRM)

I hope this is more clear, we can talk about tractors or fridges so we can avoid the Apple bias.


> so I assume your logic should be consistent and you would also like to have the option to say pay less and get an iPhone with no warranty.

What did I say that has anything to do with warranties?

> For some reasons we force warranty

This is just false. We don’t force warranties.

Companies are free to sell products without warranties.

Customers generally prefer warranties so companies provide them.

> and IMO for the exact same reason we should for basic repair ability ( diagnostic software,schematics, parts and ability to remove the DRM) I hope this is more clear,

It’s clear that your analogy is false.

Customers want warranties so they choose products which have them.

You mentioned earlier that android devices are as bad to repair, but that isn’t true either:

https://www.fairphone.com/en/

If customers want repairability they can have it. No need to force apple to do anything.

> we can talk about tractors or fridges so we can avoid the Apple bias.

Tractors and fridges are not like computers, this is a silly analogy.


Really? can you buy a phone or electronic device (new) that has say 1 month or less warranty in your country? In EU is is 2 years and you have the option to buy more

I will disagree that computers are special, why should replacing a fan or changing the disk on my computer be only done by approved people or even worse I have to buy a new one?




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