I don't read for speed nor for retention. I spend the time to digest the content, not to retain it. Just like you don't "read" math books, but engage with them.
Now this is not necessarily the optimal strategy for sure, but for one reason or another my personality is better fit for this style. I read very few books but then "debate" it in my head, try to connect things to other things, life experiences, news, other books. Is it true what the author says? Have I read somewhere else that an implicit assumption the author is making has been discredited recently? What could be the motivation? Could I argue equally convincingly for the opposite view? What are the implications for other things I care about or was wondering about perhaps long ago?
For a long time I was very ashamed of how few books I read, compared to what is expected from an educated person, but I'm okay with it now. Same with movies. I watch a movie and I think about it for days. Just watching them for relaxation doesn't work for me, following who is who and what's going on drains me more than relaxes. Especially when there's no "payoff" and the plot can only be described with "and then they" sentences.
>For a long time I was very ashamed of how few books I read, compared to what is expected from an educated person, but I'm okay with it now.
As Nabokov put it: "Incidentally, I use the word reader very loosely. Curiously enough, one cannot read a book: one can only reread it. A good reader, a major reader, an active and creative reader is a rereader." And I shall tell you why. When we read a book for the first time the very process of laboriously moving our eyes from left to right, line after line, page after page, this complicated physical work upon the book, the very process of learning in terms of space and time what the book is about, this stands between us and artistic appreciation.
I think trying to read countless of books really misses the point about reading. Reading is not about accumulating knowledge, which we constantly forget, it's to train the 'mental instruments' of reading. And for that one needs to study something deeply the same way some pianists dedicate themselves to one piece of music. If it's complex enough all that's relevant is in there.
Wow. I feel like Nabokov is validating how I've always read. I always appreciate and enjoy books (and short stories) more upon re-reading. I re-read multiple times, too. What he says rings very true for me.
I always had trouble explaining to my friends why I enjoy, while browsing a bookstore, picking up books I already own, looking for a parapgraph I know I enjoy and reading it. It's a bit like looking for clips of your favorite movies on YouTube.
Your process certainly help with retention. It engage learning strategies such as active recall and generation.
Myself, I don't try to answer questions that much, but rather I like to organize information into a bunch of interconnected facts like people, events, claims, and look them up.
For example, I discovered that a professor confused which Ruska brothers invented electron microscopy. He also made claims that I struggle to find citation for with a cursory google search.
Then I goes a step further. I input the information into a spaced repetition system. In this way, a book or an article or a youtube video gradually disappear into knowledge and become part of my long term memory about things.
Intensive or incremental reading is extremely slow for sure(I probably spent 8x times as long on my notes than reading), but knowledge creation is superior.
Unfortunately I do have problems with explicit retention. Probably some of the strategies in the comments would improve it a lot.
I have implicit retention of many things, but I often forgot the sources, I cannot list my favorite books on the spot, but if we discuss a topic I'd have flashes of relevant memories come back.
It's like I'd grapple with a book, dream about it, get confused, shaken, startled, questioning, then I integrate it back into normal life. Especially deeper books, like I had with The Selfish Gene which dispelled so many myths I had and confirmed things I thought to be correct.
You have to go through the Baader Meinhof effect of seeing that thing everywhere. With each book I view the world from an entirely new point of view, that each seem all encompassing (how ads manipulate you, how social status and prestige works, how the finance world works and cheats, how employers manipulate, how sexual behavior works, how quantum physics works or evolution or mental games we play etc), to get the smug feeling that this current book explains it all. After going through this with 5 books, you realize that no one story explains it all, but then what to do, read about narratives, move to nihilism, then realize the boundaries of rationality and faith, believing that "good" may be in one sense illusory but worth striving for. Then you read up on more traditional views on this etc.
Trying to "retain" is a bit like measuring the quality of your friendships based on how many life facts you've memorized about them. It's surely correlated, but also misses the point. The time you spent together and the experiences you had together are valuable in themselves.
Another meta skill is to decide when to use which type of reading. You have to do both the free-association, daydreaming, thinking-outside the-box, connecting-the-dots, aha-moment style but also the practical get-things-done down-to-earth concentrated reading.
For some reason the latter style has been difficult for me outside of exam prep. So when people say college is just a prestige scam, the exams are bollocks and pointless, I always remember how it at least got me to sit on my ass and crunch through the material in a focused way. Pretending is not enough. Learn it out of passion and enjoyment but solidify it with the boring exam-style stragtey is best. The latter without the former is rote memorization that many college students mistakenly equate with simply "studying" and it leads to the issue of not being able to use it outside a course context or quiz type scenarios.
> I read very few books but then "debate" it in my head, try to connect things to other things, life experiences, news, other books.
This, I think, is the only meaningful way to read something (at least when it comes to non-fiction).
In general I find supposedly impressive claims of speed, retention, number of books read to be infantile and completely besides the point.
I also incidentally can't imagine how somebody can actually read at 150 pages/hour. If you're going that fast the book you're reading is not challenging enough. To me that's a sign that you're stuck in your intellectual comfort zone.
I find the same is true when listening to lectures and non-trivial podcasts. I "can" listen to them at 2x speed (and many are proud of regularly doing it), but over time I found it's better to leave it at 1x, unless it's an 80+ year old person talking (sorry, Chomsky!). The point isn't to understand the words like some speech transcription algorithm, but to engage with them. "But FOMO! How will I catch up on all the JRE episodes then?!" Thing is, there are so many high quality podcasts out there that you cannot hope to digest them all deeply. Of course broad and deep are both needed. You need a view of "roughly what types of interesting things exist out there" in order to be able to dive into one, but endless "I'm interested in everything" is also untimately fruitless and let's you tread in place. Strangely enough once you do one thing deeply, it opens more avenues for understanding the other things.
I find it interesting that you see articles about how the general public don't read books. But thinking back to the 1980s when I was a teenager all we did was watch TV and play video games. Now with the Internet people are reading every single day. Sure maybe not books of a single theme or concept but people are certainly reading more overall.
Not sure it's that different. There used to be trash magazines about celebrities and mysterious UFOs and romance stories etc. And even today most people don't read articles, they read chat messages and tweets and short fb posts etc. The cliche thing everyone jokes about is how nobody reads the damn article (reddit, HN etc).
News portal reading is kinda similar to newspaper reading. Teens don't read "boring" political articles today nor in the 80s. They read their niche stuff, but they did have hobby magazines on electronics, fantasy or fashion or music even back then.
It could be that you yourself and your peers read more simply as a function of getting older and more mature.
This really resonated with me and is so well said. I have the same relationship with books and movies and consider choosing a book to read a very precise and intimate choice. I research a book I’m interested in thoroughly prior to committing. Glad i’m not the only one. Cheers.
The caveat is not to overdo it though. Learning calculus from not-the-best book is still way better then dreaming around and procrastinating on which textbook really is the very best. (Same with workouts, diets etc.)
And in terms of popular non-fiction books, like Harari or so, they are best thought of as textual Rorschach tests. He throws up topics and connectioms, activates certain parts of your mind and you can now fly from there. Even if you know a lot of background, many such books can be great thought stimulants.
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I can't read the article, because I don't have a Medium account.
In any case, I'm guessing that SRS/Anki isn't mentioned. Personally, I've had incredible success with retention by adding my notes from a book to Anki and keeping current with the cards. I'll also add the Wikipedia page and other general information about it.
I would almost argue that reading for information (as opposed to aesthetic enjoyment) is a hugely inefficient waste of time if you don't use a SRS system to retain what you've learned. I've probably read hundreds or thousands of books in my lifetime, but I can really only remember the minute details of the ones I've added to Anki.
This brings to mind an old Schopenhauer quote:
As the biggest library if it is in disorder is not as useful as a small but well-arranged one, so you may accumulate a vast amount of knowledge but it will be of far less value than a much smaller amount if you have not thought it over for yourself.
> I can't read the article, because I don't have a Medium account.
I’m getting so sick of this trend of requiring (or at least heavily pushing) an account just to read some content. My latest frustration was the Microsoft community forums taking that turn. No, I don’t want to “engage”—I just need to find the solution to some damn problem. Now I can add Medium to that list.
Haha this comes up all the time here. Just to be sure, you can click on the https/lock icon, select cookies and block them and you'll never have this problem.
Same here. I even block JavaScript, too. Not just on Medium, but any website with a paywall or a similar free content blocking mechanism (wired.com, many newspapers etc).
I have an account, they're using my first name to directly target me (which is making me incredibly uncomfortable), and they're telling me I ran out of free articles this month and are asking me to upgrade.
I've never had a Medium account. I had no idea an account was something you'd need, other than for posting stories. I use Pale Moon as a browser, with Noscript, uBlock Origin and Flashblock. (As a rule of thumb, if I can't read it in Pale Moon with those running, it's probably not worth reading.)
> I would almost argue that reading for information (as opposed to aesthetic enjoyment) is a hugely inefficient waste of time if you don't use a SRS system to retain what you've learned. I've probably read hundreds or thousands of books in my lifetime, but I can really only remember the minute details of the ones I've added to Anki.
I use Anki (and the classic version of "SuperMemo") a lot, too. However, I mostly use it for learning languages (vocabulary), or for more complex material in case a test/exam is coming up (to avoid "cramming").
However, I see two problems with such SRS systems, now that I've been using them for over 10 years:
1) I can often not recall the knowledge in real life, simply because I study _both_ the question and answer side of the card - in other words, if I'm asked the question in a rather different way, I might not recall that I know that fact at all. The most extreme example of this was that certain flashcards broke after a while, e.g. showing a gray (instead of a white) background in the question card, for some reason. Whenever that gray card comes up I know the answer immediately, without even having fully read the question (which I forget over time). So in the end, what my brain remembers is:
<question card with a medium-length sentence and gray background> comes up -> answer = "propensity". (I'm learning English as a foreign language).
2) A lot of knowledge in books that I read (let's take the "Pragmatic programmer" as an example) is not suited for flash card system learning. It's knowledge of the form "if this happens, do that", e.g. "if you are about to write a new method in your source code, think of how you would test that method first, to improve the method's quality". Sure, I could create a flash card that has the question: "what should you do when you write a new method?", but it's pointless. These kinds of things require deliberate practice for the specific situations, when you are in the IDE, not in the SRS software. It's methodological knowledge where, in the end, it doesn't matter if you could answer the question when someone asked you about it on the street, but it matters that you remember when you're in the actual situation.
I've also created an "Anki Vocabulary Program", all you have to do is basically open the terminal and type "add targetWord definitionOrImageUrl" and it does the following:
1. Creates an anki card with basic word -> definition or image
2. Creates an anki card with writing exercise for the word
3. Creates an anki card with pronunciation exercise for the word (fetches audio file on fly)
4. Creates an anki card featuring a dynamic cloze exercise (fetches 250 example sentences for the word, stores it in a database, serves a random one each time an anki card requests it, a custom-made card (in Anki) hides the word in the sentence, provides the ability to request a new sentence or reveal a letter as a hint)
And adds these cards to a specified deck. It's proved very useful so far.
I've created my own flash card software that haves each deck in Markdown (the writing of the notes are as important as the study) and predicts when the deck will have been learned (for goal setting and motivation).
Anyway you have some really great ideas. Mind if I have a look at your solution?
> These kinds of things require deliberate practice for the specific situations, when you are in the IDE, not in the SRS software
This is what checklists and reference sheets are for. After learning how to do something, file away a reference somewhere and put the existence of that reference in your SRS. When you come back to that activity after a long break, you then have a physical artifact to help jog your memory.
The Zettelkasten approach doesn't require memorization at all, it is assumed that you will keep working with your notes forever and they are the memory.
But it also emphasises putting each idea on its own note, paraphrasing into your own words rather than merely copying, and thinking deeply about other notes and topics you already have that the new note might relate to. And that has to help with remembering them.
I think the solution is to get more creative with the cards. Use them as cues for situations, add images, etc. The notecard format is just the way Anki is designed, but SRS doesn’t necessarily need to be limited to a strict text card format.
I feel this issue isn't recall as much as usage. That is, you retain (via habit) what you put to use and continue to use.
I read mostly non-fiction. What most people would call business books. I read paper (not digital) and like to highlight. I don't retain a lot of details per se. That said, much of it isn't necessarily new. Often key points are reinforcement of concepts I'm already familiar with.
That said, I do want to start doing ten key points summaries. I see ten as being enough but not too much. To force myself into a box that's chunkable. I'll resign myself to the fact that eleven and beyond just weren't good enough.
What do you mean by the classical version of SuperMemo? Why not incremental reading?
I think a lot of the issues you mentioned are hinged on formulation which is a really hard skill and requires a lot of practice. Unfortunately I think anki is terrible for it because unlike SM it’s not that convenient (nor intended) for you to edit cards for applicability on each go.
Good point, SuperMemo is kind of made for you to make gradual adjustments to your flash cards, at least on the web site that is encouraged. Maybe you make a flash card in incremental reading, you don’t have to fix it right away, you can wait until the next review cycle to make a change.
Regarding 2), I write cards on the structure, for example to rot learn the table of content, key sections or enumerations. It’s usually enough to create a path in my mind so that I can access the memory of the content in situations where I need it.
I prefer the Sherlock Holmes approach - my mind is an attic, it only has so much space, so I’m okay emptying it of extraneous shit and then refilling it on an as-needed basis :).
I agree, and this is why I use and recommend https://readwise.io/. (I'm not affiliated, I just like the service a lot.)
You highlight text, add notes, and every day you see these highlights and notes over time— all in your inbox or on the app.
I also take notes in a notebook for each chapter. Then write out a summary of the book. Periodically, I'll read through my notes for books. Or I'll watch a summary video on YouTube.
I also think taking notes really helps me remembering. For SW development-related books, I try to write a blog post summarizing what I liked/disliked about the book, and also shorter reviews for Goodreads and Amazon (because I find those really useful, and rely on them when checking out books).
Alternatively, disable cookies on Medium.com by clicking the lock next to the URL, clicking "cookies", and finally "block". Desktop of course, but I'm sure there's a way to disable cookies for individual sites on mobile as well. Never have to open in a private browser ever again.
I too, use this method successfully. I read everything on kindle, and then after I finish reading the book, i wait a few days and go through all of the notes and create flash cards for them. I review them everyday and never need need to re-read a book.
The method works very well, but creating the cards takes time.
I did take speed reading courses myself. Sure, it helps you speed-read, skimming over sections that seem unfamiliar, and detect when you need to slow down, because the subject matter becomes too unfamiliar/new. I've also had the impression that retention improves a bit after the couple of training days - at least that's what the workshop instructor makes you believe (it's their job to sell success and good feelings so that you recommend the course to your peers).
In the end, I highly doubt that anyone who claims to have such high speeds is sincere. The simple fact is that marking text with a highlighter, making notes (with a pen) and thinking about the content (do you?) takes time. If you accounted for that and took the average, you'd get lower numbers. And that is fine.
I do think people who read a lot can read faster simply because sentences and subjects look similar to things they've read before. I mean if you read three Steve Jobs biographies in a row you can skim read some segments that look familiar, just scan for things that are new / told differently.
I can't read books fast because I don't read enough. Not books anyway, comments on the internet on the other hand, far too many. But I skim / skip / don't retain most of them.
It’s even more nonsense when you look at recall over longer periods of time. If you look at forgetting curves (like Ebbinghaus) no matter how well you read a book there’s no way after a month you’ll remember more than say 10%. I don’t think that’s so bad if you take care to take the most valuable abstract concepts and rules from books.
Oh absolutely agree with reading speeds being different for different books (I actually had that line earlier, I shortened the post to just mention the principles though).
This post was not meant at all as a silly braggy post about speed reading, not that speed reading is anything to brag about in the first place.
Why I say these things changed my life is because, it doesn't matter whether I read 100 books or half a book. What matters is if I learnt just one single principle from it which I actually use. Some of the things mentioned in the post such as taking notes and writing a summary at the end truly helped with that.
> I read about 3 books in a month and 60 pages per hour. Not quite the same as Bill Gates who reads about 150 pages in an hour with 90% retention but I’m slowly getting closer.
Reading books and trying to remember the maximum information seems rather pointless unless you're specifically studying for an exam or something. Your brain already optimises and retains the most relevant/interesting information for you. We don't have limitless memory and we need to forget things in order to learn new ones. Reading 3 books per month and retaining 90% seems both highly unlikely and pointless in the long term.
A principle of increasing retention is to change how much is relevant and interesting to you. Based on the notes he publishes, Bill Gates seems to bring a lot of prior experience and context to his reading. This lets him remember much more of the new information by being able to associate it with what he already knows.
You can test this theory by reading three similar books in a row on an unfamiliar subject. You’ll remember more of the third book than the first.
> You can test this theory by reading three similar books in a row on an unfamiliar subject. You’ll remember more of the third book than the first.
That's not a very useful scenario when talking about reading X books a month and retaining Y percent. If you don't control for how much of the information is new, then the % retention is pretty arbitrary. You can read the same book 3 times and I'm sure you'll get better retention on the third repetition.
My point is Bill Gates, and anyone who reads for retention, does control how much of the information is new by picking books they bring a lot of context to. But you are right that reading the same unfamiliar book three times would also be a way to bring more context to the third reading.
Yeah, I agree with what you said. My point is that it's pointless and misleading to bring up retention numbers if most what you're retaining you already knew previously. It's not a measure of how much you're actually learning.
True. I originally jumped in to object to the original poster’s idea that trying to control retention is pointless or impossible. There are too many variables that go into how much is objectively retained and for how long, especially since not every subject, author or title is read for the same purpose so success varies. I would, though, assume Bill Gates could retain 90% of a given book with less context than most people would need, i.e. retain a higher volume of new information than most people. That would be true whether measuring retention of everything in the book or just the new parts.
> Reading books and trying to remember the maximum information seems rather pointless unless you're specifically studying for an exam or something. Your brain already optimises and retains the most relevant/interesting information for you.
That is just not the case. The brain does not work that perfect way. It tends to remember new info about stuff you already know a lot about.
That is whole reason for reading for retention is to hack the brain so that it remembers what I want to remember.
I’ve actually heard of studies suggesting it’s specifically not an LRU. That each time you remember something the memory is rewritten (via proteins) so that memory is less and less accurate they more you remember it.
We do have finite brains but that doesn’t mean forgetting is necessary for learning. There are many examples of people with prodigious natural gifts for memory and more who trained it. Physical and theoretical limits aren’t really relevant to your claim.
> According to Herman Goldstine, the mathematician John von Neumann was able to recall from memory every book he had ever read.
> Eidetic memory (more commonly called photographic memory) is the ability to recall an image from memory with high precision for a brief period after seeing it only once, and without using a mnemonic device.
'for a brief period' is key here.
Also from the same wikipedia article:
> Each year at the World Memory Championships, the world's best memorizers compete for prizes. None of the world's best competitive memorizers has a photographic memory, and no one with claimed eidetic or photographic memory has ever won the championship.
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> According to Herman Goldstine, the mathematician John von Neumann was able to recall from memory every book he had ever read.
That's just what some guy said.
> There are many examples of people with prodigious natural gifts for memory and more who trained it.
I don’t care about eidetic memory. I’m just asking if you have any evidence or research to the effect that forgetting is necessary for learning, your original claim.
Even what you process every second thru your senses is a huge amount of data and most of it is not memorized (and it's a useful mechanism as we don't need to remember everything either).
I'd assume based on personal experience that higher retention rates occur in subjects the reader is already familiar with. If you're reading into a subject you're not familiar with and rely on "your brain" to optimize what's most relevant for that subject I'd bet you'd come out looking like the stereotypical "know it all" in any related conversation.
> I'd assume based on personal experience that higher retention rates occur in subjects the reader is already familiar with.
In that case only a fraction of the information in the book can really be learned. Yes, you can read a book you already know very well and retain 95% of the information, but then what's the point of even citing any numbers?
> If you're reading into a subject you're not familiar with and rely on "your brain" to optimize what's most relevant for that subject I'd bet you'd come out looking like the stereotypical "know it all" in any related conversation.
Only if you think you retain 90% of what you read.
It would be interesting to check the difference in retention over a day, a week, a month, and 6 months. I thought I was awesome like that until I realized that there are huge amounts of things that I don't really remember after a time because I never think about them. The memories can be elicited by reminders or some kind of trigger, but otherwise, they are outside of my conscious thought process. It's sort of like archival storage versus what I keep in RAM.
Reading speed largely depends on the material. Some texts, ex. Bible or Plato's dialogues, are meant as merely jumping points for one's reflection on the subject. Reading them at 150 pages per hour would be utterly pointless.
Yeah, that’s also my take. Some texts are a mere introduction to a much deeper process that should happen inside your head and there’s no way to accelerate that. The way I like to think is you can change your input bandwidth (reading speed) but can’t change your processor clock (brain assimilation speed).
It doesn’t invalidate people that read at 2x normal speed, it just depends on the kind of book you’re reading. I’m able to listen to some books at 2.5x but it’s always the same kind of book: non fiction, business related, those books that in the end you think it could be a blog post rather than a 500 pages book.
> I’m able to listen to some books at 2.5x but it’s always the same kind of book: non fiction, business related, those books that in the end you think it could be a blog post rather than a 500 pages book.
Don't get me started on those books... They're essentially a result of a market failure - since the readers are not willing to pay for blog posts, but will buy books, the writers are incentivised to dress up their blog posts as books... This is enromously wasteful, as millions of people are wasting their time reading the filler necessary to reach an acceptable book size (typically a minimum of 150 pages).
I never claimed I retain 90%+ I said Bill Gates does according to that documentary :)
What I aim to retain is one single principle or thought from a whole book. Which is why I suggested writing a summary at the end.
I wish I understood how reading worked, for me. I just re-read an anthology (Dragon-themed short stories) I'd last read as a young adult (decades ago). All seemed new again. Saves me a bunch on books, since I've kept every one I ever read.
But halfway through there was a story I remembered. Not just a little; every detail of every character and scene. Emotionally and intellectually.
No idea why one story stood out, while the rest left my brain completely. Wish I could do that on command.
I'm the opposite, I give away every book I finish reading (with very rare exceptions).
Normally the way I do this is that I actively look for people who would appreciate the book and then pass it on (I know the book and I know the person => I can try to evaluate if they'd like it).
Did you remember any of the stories after the one you remembered in detail? Because if you do then maybe it took your associative memory a while to match the pattern.
I tried to write summaries of all the books I read and it made me retain and understand the key concepts a lot better. I just couldn't keep it up.
My current trick is to use a product called Readwise. I highlight stuff I want to remember in Kindle, and it syncs with my Kindle and everyday emails me a random set of my highlights. It's a paid product but I pay for it and recommend it to everyone I know who reads. Was game changing for me.
There is something fundamental about my right to read whatever I please, in total privacy. Readwise violates that principle. [1]
I've been thinking about writing a simple script to transform my highlights into Anki [2] cards to achieve the same thing but without sharing my reading habits and highlights with a private company.
It creates an Anki deck with one card per highlight. The "hint" side of each card shows the book title and the 5 most important words/phrases from the clipping (as determined by Rake [1]). It could also be pretty easily modified to do cloze deletion (fill in the blank) using the "most important" words as the "blanks" on the hint card.
My thinking was that this would help sort of jog your memory of the highlight without just showing the whole thing immediately.
I made a deck of several hundred cards and it seems to work great. Would love if someone tried it out too.
I've tried to "ankify" some books to increase my retention of the facts and concepts, in the hopes that I'd be able to talk about a book with friends and family in much more detail.
However, soon my misconception about how memory works made itself very clear.
Even though I made hundreds of cards regarding a book, when we started talking about it, I quickly realized that all of that information that I so meticulously added to Anki and studied was not available to me.
It was because I needed my retrieval cues, the questions I've used to create Anki cards, and I couldn't access the information I had in my brain without them.
Try making cards that mimic the situations you plan on using the information in. Sort of like a choose-your-own adventure game. For example:
“You’re at a conference and you start talking to someone about [The Great Depression.] What are some key points to remember?”
Then have an outline or key points on the reverse card. This works better than simply filling in the blank Cloze cards.
Basically, every piece of information or memory has a trigger. The trick is to make this trigger relevant to the scenarios in which you want to use the information, rather than just other words in the Anki card.
I don’t think cards like that work over 10 years because they violate minimum information principle (rule 4 here: http://super-memory.com/articles/20rules.htm). I agree though that you have to find the right cue to initialize recall or else the card is pointless. I think incrementalism in incremental reading is better for this since it’s easy to modify and improve your cards over time.
The link isn’t loading for me. I also don’t really see how that matters if your cue is inherent to the situation in which you will use the information. To use a real life example, returning to a place you haven’t been in twenty years still conjures up hidden memories.
You can also make multiple cards/cues for the same information.
If we go with the example you mentioned as a card:
“You’re at a conference and you start talking to someone about [The Great Depression.] What are some key points to remember?”
there are a few issues
tl;dr by being complex but still a single card SRS isn’t actually going to strengthen the memory very well and you’ll be stuck with short intervals on a card that will take at least 10 seconds each rep. It will still work but it’ll take up much more time than it should. (The link explains it much better)
But it’s not a bad idea. If you answer the card and write out an answer, memorizing pieces of that answer in accordance with minimum information principle will leave better memory effect. While you might have 20 subcards, over time these will get much more accurate intervals from being atomic and actually take less times in rep than your massed question.
recently I've been using the zettelkasten method to accomplish exactly this. Small cards, hyperlinked together with whatever other concepts you associate it with. This resource was really helpful: https://zettelkasten.de/posts/overview/
I am one of those old schools that love physical books. I take notes while reading books. Later, I publish them on my site. This made me not only read more, but also share it with more people.
I don't take notes while reading (mostly because I lack the habit, but I also read a lot while I walk/bike at the gym, as it helps me focus more), but I've found that physical books allow me to remember a lot more than ebooks. Even if I'm reading the same book in different formats (switching between physica/ebook based on what I'm doing, for instance), I've found that I'll remember more of the physical book's content.
Maybe I should find a way to stick with my notes again, especially for more academic books.
I've always been hesitant to write book reviews or synopses because I believe I have nothing new to add, but this is a novel idea that also benefits the reader by increasing retention. I believe I will start doing this; thank you for the inspiration!
I was taught a long time ago that it's the act of jotting down notes which helps you to remember things. Yes you can always refer back to them, but there is something about the action of physically doing it strengthens the memory retention.
I'm fairly sure that the feeling was typing notes didn't have as strong an affect on retention, the notes needed to be physically written.
I won't say I've mastered it but I have started forming a pattern when reading books. As the article's author mentioned, I usually have few books 'on-read' at a time (both physical and kindle).
Once upon a time, when I used to travel, I tend to finish a single book of decent size/page. Now that I read more at home, I use tiny post-its and stick them across pages and let a small portion of it stick out of the book's page. I find it useful for me to quickly go through afterwards or when done as some sort of revision.
For a more intense/focused reading, I combine the above with notes. Recently (a year since), I moved to a text-based life (kinda org-mode) and I have a folder just for books where I write key points and write out what I read.
I don't mind skipping, and/or speed reading at times when the content is similar or not-so-interesting. Many a book shares similar sentiments, phrases, and key points which you can just do a fly-by kinda reading.
Btw, with the current COVID-19 circumstances, I might have completed my target to read 50 odd books this year. I have increased myself to 100, which I believe won't make it. I might actually be re-reading a lot more of the old ones.
I highly encourage any of you wanting to retain more from wha though read to use SuperMemo’s incremental reading [1] feature.
What it does summarized in a sentence: allows processing of thousands of passive materialS in parallel to convert them effectively to active recall item.
It’s a pretty bold claim but it’s not so fancy and complicated as it seems.
First half of the power of incremental reading is systems for processing materially efficiently (more things in less time). If I import an article into SuperMemo, SuperMemo has good tools for breaking it down (incrementally) and processing it manageably. While there’s a bit of a learning curve to being efficient, given an hour with a textbook chapter I could convert and retain the core content better than a note taker or an anki card maker. One of the things I like the most about it is that it makes processing manageable. It doesn’t make it easy but I never have to worry about needing to do too much at once. It’s all incremental and stress less (after you get over the figure out how to use it phrase).
The second thing it does well is allow you to learn effectively (the right things with your time). It has a priority system and a queueing algorithm that allows you to focus on highest yield material. It also has a system for allowing you to learn things in an order. That might seem trivial but if I’m reading a Wikipedia page and want to go back when I’ve learned something else, that’s a huge pain to manage traditionally. SuperMemo makes that fairly easy so you’re always able to make sure to learn background info as scaffolding before harder things.
I highly recommend people try it even though starting with it is pretty hard. If you’re interested you can either email me (email is in my profile) or join the SuperMemo discord servers also linked there.
The mechanical how people read at higher speeds might be an interesting topic.
What I often do when I am "reading" for knowledge can probably be simplified down to "I read fairly quickly", but there's no nuance in that statement to talk about what I'm doing when I'm reading and how I move so quickly.
I am often doing some combination of:
- scanning (moving quickly across sight-words, finding relevant points of entry into the subject matter)
- absorbing (slower process of gathering words surrounding the entry point to gain better local context)
- backtracking (taking local context and fixing it into a broader context)
- full-on processing (often this looks like deep reading, but it is more like deep thinking; I take in fewer words from the page, but connect them to concepts I already understand)
This is not a linear process, at least for myself.
This is different from when I read for pleasure. My pleasure reading can only really be described as "scanning" I think. Authors who craft their paragraphs so carefully would probably be horrified by how I enjoy their works of art, but I appreciate their works in my own way, and I find that this reading for pleasure is probably the fastest reading I do. I could easily consume a book of fiction in a day or two, and I always enjoy re-reading.
Another reading skills facet: my reading out loud is pretty clumsy (or it at least feels that way). I read often to my children, and it feels pretty slow and clunky. I enjoy doing it, but it's not the same type of "reading". Different skill, different goals. It's something I'm working on.
Re. the part about reading for pleasure: I do this too and used to think it was a bad habit. But, actually, after years of re-reading particular favourites multiple times, I uncover something knew that clicks more of the story into place. It’s a delightful experience that increases the re-readability of your favourite works :)
Because of the mistaken belief that doing something 'productive' is better than doing something you enjoy.
Somewhere along the line lots of people decided that if they aren't running everyone else is running past them.
The runners then posted endless blog posts about how they are faster runners and run for longer and it became it's old vicious circle.
I opted out, Yesterday I spent two hours sat watching a working harbour (with the odd walk to get a coffee) - the boats coming and going, the change on the surface of the water as clouds floated past, the gulls swooping around and it was amazing - after that I spent a couple of hours riding around aimlessly on a motorcycle visiting villages I'd only seen as a name on a map before and running across interesting old buildings/memorials (socially distancing) and then headed home as the sun set.
It was the closest I've felt to at peace in the last six months, nowhere to go, nothing that needed to be done.
You don't have to be on a treadmill all your life, running without a destination is just running.
Enjoyment only comes once you are good enough at something. At first it's a chore. Getting off the couch and going for a jog is a chore at first, a habit later and an enjoyment even later. Reading can be excruciating if you are hooked on smartphone apps and have a constant buzz in your head of all the exciting things you could be playing and watching and getting outraged about on apps and social media. But it gets better later on, and becomes natural to just shut out the noise.
Initial discomfort is okay, we cannot just always follow the path of least resistance. Especially in these times when literally billions and billions of marketing dollars are spent on keeping you off-track, assisted by the brightest scientific minds, squeezing every last percentage out of making you a miserable mess.
People who lost an ability to enjoy start to make a competition out of everything. So at least they can get a little satisfaction from that they read faster then someone else and this is measurable.
How much you enjoying though can't be measured so many don't count it as real.
These ideas apply mainly to nonfiction and maybe literary fiction, if one is so inclined. For other kinds of fiction, keeping notes is distracting and detracts from enjoyment of the text.
Yes, for fiction, you're supposed to be part of the flow, and the story. Do not need to worry about notes or trying to 'absorb' anything in particular.
> Write notes every single time. Don’t copy paste notes from your kindle or phone, write manually, typing every single word. Also try to paraphrase, this way you are forced to actively think about the material you’re reading.
This basically got me through college.
With some of the less interesting stuff, my eyes would glide across the page without my brain being engaged at all. So I'd restart, and 10 minutes later I'd find I had read the same page 5 times and retained nothing.
Probably this happened because I impatiently wanted to get to the end ASAP, so I would try to rush the process, ironically slowing it down.
But knowing that I was going to be writing notes was enough to make my brain engage. I'm impatient, but I'm also too proud to write down something that I know isn't right, even in my own notes. Also, I guess it feels good to produce some kind of concrete work output.
Taking notes helped me to stay attentive during lectures that were not engaging. In several courses my classmates photocopied my notes and used them to study for midterms and finals. I think taking notes during lectures is more efficient than sleeping through lectures and spending many hours studying.
I do not see it mentioned in the comments anywhere, but the method that has worked for me, especially for hard subjects, is to start by reading a few books and get a "macro" view of the topic.
Example: Right now, I'm trying to learn a lot about quantum mechanics, so I read two books and learned about the standard model, Schrödinger equation, the three generations of matter, relativity etc. I try to determine how they all fit together. I don't draw memory maps, but I basically try to calculate one in my head (probably should just draw them). Then I stick all of those concepts + new vocabulary into anki and review them daily. After a month or two, I pick up another few books and get deeper ("micro" view). When I get bored, I stop and move on to a new subject.
I have done this with microbiology, physics, some time periods of history, computer science, etc. You just need to read a lot. I do not think speed reading matters but skipping over parts of books that are not relevant will certainly save you time.
yes, i went through the first two articles a few while back. i like the idea a lot, but i wish they would offer cards for offline (the author has a great article on srs: http://augmentingcognition.com/ltm.html)
> Pick up multiple books from the same area to go deeper in an area. That way to genuinely learn about a topic.
My problem with this is that when I encounter something that I think I already know I tend to skim it, making it hard to pick up additional knowledge that I might have missed.
I unfortunately don’t have a link on it but this is mainly because active recall is far better than just passive review for memory effect. Memories are like muscles: the more you struggle (without actually failing) the stronger the memory gets. Reading isn’t a struggle so the memories stay weak, paraphrasing and notes are thus much better or strengthening recall. SRS can take you a level higher than that and guarantee much longer term recall via repeated active recall
> Speed read parts that might not be useful to remember. My brain cache is limited, there are things I like to keep and things I just discard. Learn to recognize those parts of the book that you need to remember and those that can be discarded.
Why read those part at all if they are not meant to be remembered?
Context for the next bits that are worth remembering, or maybe the tone of the paragraph/section changes and suddenly an interesting or exciting part pops out and you read that normally.
Now this is not necessarily the optimal strategy for sure, but for one reason or another my personality is better fit for this style. I read very few books but then "debate" it in my head, try to connect things to other things, life experiences, news, other books. Is it true what the author says? Have I read somewhere else that an implicit assumption the author is making has been discredited recently? What could be the motivation? Could I argue equally convincingly for the opposite view? What are the implications for other things I care about or was wondering about perhaps long ago?
For a long time I was very ashamed of how few books I read, compared to what is expected from an educated person, but I'm okay with it now. Same with movies. I watch a movie and I think about it for days. Just watching them for relaxation doesn't work for me, following who is who and what's going on drains me more than relaxes. Especially when there's no "payoff" and the plot can only be described with "and then they" sentences.