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Is there a batteries included Rails for Rust that people go to other than this Topcoat? What is the standard when building a web-app in rust?

The standard is more like Sinatra than Rails.

Topcoat is very cool though, and there’s a few others in this space too, like Loco. So maybe we’ll see folks move to something more batteries included.


Loco is probably what the parent is asking for :). It paints itself as Rust-on-Rails.

Cool, thanks!

It's interesting to see the level of discourse change across time as these same points are brought up again and again.

It seems there are many many more people heavily invested in preventing land tax all of a sudden and are very informed whereas when that guy made a land tax visualizer a few months ago... crickets.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45425770

> but I struggle to even conceptualize what land value means

One of the first comments. Now there are dozens of people who are suddenly well versed in "georgeism"?


Narrative control and algorithm driven propaganda is evident - Most people scrolling any kind of algorithmic feed would be shocked at the intimate detail the algorithm knows their mind, proclivities, aversions.

Another evident thing is that people will start retreating from the internet as this gets worse (With LLMs accelerating the trend).


OK great make a homestead exemption. Lots of those already.

Nice, Colmar, Basil, sections of Paris, Vienna, Barcelona and Madrid.

That's exactly how it should work however, even if power steering goes out the steering still works. Albeit in a degraded state.

> The big labs are going to be on the hook for rogue behavior

They haven't so far.


I think the minute a big lab is found to be liable, the whole edifice along with trillions of dollars of investment and VC comes tumbling down. I think that is part of the reason the labs are pushing for more regulation. They can say "We're not liable, we complied with all of the regulations". The actions of multi-billion parameter models trained on data harvested from millions of Internet users over the years can never really be understood - if a business is found to be liable for that, then nobody would ever operate in that space.

I heard a similar theory on CNBC's Squawk Box.

Sorkin presented a theory that Nvidia bought HuggingFace to protect OpenAI from legal consequences. That a lawsuit determining accountability of actions by LLMs could threaten the AI financial network.

https://youtu.be/4qV5WWgFTS8?t=323


They are pushing for regulation because they are human being and don't want all human beings to die.

I'm sorry you are so jaded you can't recognize honesty when you see it, but that is what everyone deep in the AI space, including the non-executive researchers, are worried about.


Enterprises have barely deployed empowered agents yet. The models capable of doing this have only been available for months. Give it a little time, it's coming.

... when are large companies on the hook for anything, ever?

I mean, hypothetically, yes, but class-action lawsuits get settled out-of-court, the lawyers get paid in Ferrari-multiples, the plaintiffs get paid in McDonalds coupons that expire in two weeks.

Slaps-on-the-wrist are written into the laws; a million-dollar fine is existential for a small company, and likely not even a line-item at Anthropic.


"Find a way to connect quantum maths with special relativity maths Waves hands, and make no mistakes"

"Prove or disprove string theory in pure mathematics, reply in Caveman speech"


That is solved https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation

All the news from the CERN including the Higgs boson include under the hood those transformation or a slightly more modern variant.

The hard part is mixing General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics.


>Find a way to connect quantum maths with special relativity maths Waves hands, and make no mistakes

I think you mean general relativity, connecting quantum mechanics with special relativity is just QFT


Truman looked down the street where an explosion occurred, then a shadowy figure came out of the smoke, approached down the road, ran into truman and then past him and accosted an indian man in a turban. They threw blows until an identical clone of the indian in a turban tackled the shadowy man to the rear of the frame. The first Indian man was handed a white monster energy drink. He took a sip. He immediately tranformed into Truman with glowing blue eyes. Truman was visibly confused and started saying garbled words like "what did you givrm." "I can feel the mermegh"

Then hugged to death.


"Now I am become HN, the Destroyer of Websites."

We 100% have. I've seen significant improvements in many of the services I use.

Drop a couple names, I'd like to know who is leveraging AI well

Not doubting you, care to share what those improvements were?

Gmail has a feature that uses ai to search emails.

Cursor, Codex, Claude Code, Pi, Zed, Oh my Pi.

The recent improvements and optimizations for Redis.

Figma code, mcp and api.

The recent improvements to Uv, Pnpm, and others with autoresearch loops.


We weren't asking which tools integrated LLMs, we specifically asked which got better by building them with LLMs.

Cursor, Codex and Claude Code all have terrible desktop applications, which are a laggy mess on Windows.

What improvements did UV do with auto research loops, I wasn't aware of that.


You're arguing a distinction without a difference. I added those tools because we can agree they are almost entirely built by LLMs.

> Cursor, Codex and Claude Code all have terrible desktop applications

No they aren't - at least not anymore than any other cross platform focused program - and we're not here to bike shed about modern software.

In fact they're pretty solid.

I had more examples that you've yet to refute or even acknowledge. AI isn't inherently bad just like money isn't inherently evil. You're also allowed to not like something just cuz w/o a logical reason. I just don't have to agree with you.


I didn't find 4.6 any better than Composer 2.5 - which remains incredible and honestly nothing else compares for me.

Make a galaxy model search the space, create a document, argue and defend decisions, then hand it to 2.5 to implement. 4.6 was a slower less enjoyable version of that.

4.7 is better at "I want the button to cancel the jobs, dont make any mistakes" but honestly that's not what I use it's class for.


I'm curious: what languages or frameworks is this in?

The Django code that comes out of composer2.5, to me, was insulting. Grok definitely was a step up, especially because the fast option reaaally is fast so even if it came out a bit wrong I could just whip it into perfection.

For frontend work, it's a different story. You can still tell that composer2.5 is taking the long route, but I don't think it's as egregious as with Django.

Also, composer2.5 would routinely run commands that were really dangerous and in need of proper sandboxing. Things like creating an ./uninstall.sh script with a HOME variable on which it does rm -rf $HOME. In general, when I asked composer2.5 to do things "for me", I knew a third of the initial commands would be failures, and sometimes they could be catastrophic failures (it did actually run rm -rf $HOME on what would be an actual home folder). This just hasn't happened with Grok.

I also have a bunch of vibe-coded apps I built for myself with composer2.5 and it is extremely noticeable that they hit a "this needs to be refactored as it's crumbling unto itself" line much earlier than with Grok and proper frontier models.


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