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Everytime something impressive is posted, a real feat, the comments mostly pick on it. Please stop


Modern devs are frustrated. They don't do anything of importance or significance anymore. They're not the guy designing a virtual memory manager for a novel OS. They're just some cog in a machine converting SQL queries into HTML to show ads to kids and old people.

One can only become cynical and bitter.


Since the beginning, most developers in history wrote payroll and accounts software. Now they do cat photos sharing apps. If anything, I consider this an improvement.


Payroll, Accounts Receivable, etc. feels much more dignified than figuring how to deliver more brain-damaging ads.

Also, the whole extreme programming style was prototyped around hilariously big (for reasons called "USA" not bad code) payroll software for Chrysler.


spot on. plus using a lot of js because they don't know html and css (or just very superficially). :-)


JS is necessary to maintain state, can this be done with CSS and HTML?

Also, I'd say that manipulation of CSS classes and HTML elements with JS gives the developer quite a strong understanding of them.


Once again the confusion between "HTML document" and "Web App" bites again. A NYT article does not needs client side state.


You can get away with much less state with minimal JS like HTMX


Every time someone posts a counter argument, people pick on it. Please stop.

Oh really, don't: that's what the discussion should be about.

You are certainly right to a point, but a better way to redirect positively is to ask: how can we come to a state where similar feats are possible today in a company setting?


I understand this attitude, but FWIW, when I got here 5 hours after your post, all the top comments were very positive and not picking on it at all. And that's how it usually is when I see one of these comments like yours. It takes a little time for the sieve of user moderation to bubble the better comments up to the top.


Every time comments are posted, a real interactive discussion, other commenters pick on it. Please stop.


But you don't understand, I once had to replace chart.js 3 with chart.js 4 and the documentation didn't cover all of the changes. This man would have collapsed into a heap if he'd had to face the challenges I've faced.


Like unironically, the things we deal with would be equivalent of somebody coming in, dumping a bucket of mud on his pretty diagrams and saying "integrate with that"


I think we should just admit people working on major components of file systems, from scratch, are probably smarter than us.


maybe they were just more skilled or working in a better working environment

i mean they might just be smarter, but that's far from the only explanation. they could be working harder, or have better mentorship, or not have to deal with productivity sinks you do, etc.


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