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Epoch Times/Falun Dafa is sad you ignore them.

The girls school strike was followed up by a strike minutes later. Same spot. The girls school children was probably made up of the kids of IRGC members.

A strike on the girls school would attract IRGC members to it, who could be finished off with the second strike.

I think the attack was deliberate.


There've already been numerous postmortems published about what happened with the school strike.

The school was located on a former military base. 10 years ago, that location was a legit military target. Nobody bothered to update the satellite imagery from 2013 when feeding it into whatever LLM was assisting in targeting. It saw an airstrip and missile base. The human reviewing the targeting saw an airstrip and missile base. When you go to take out a military target, you don't send one missile. You send a missile or two in first, and then another couple in a few minutes later.

Hanlon's Razor very much applies here. There's no need to posit that the children were IRGC members or that the attack was deliberate or even that the children were the targets. There's a very obvious explanation, which is that nobody bothered to check the date and assumed that if it was military base in 2013 it was still a military base today.


> There's a very obvious explanation, which is that nobody bothered to check the date and assumed that if it was military base in 2013 it was still a military base today.

That's not a particularly obvious or even likely explanation. The US clearly has updated intelligence on Iran since 2013, or they wouldn't have been able to bomb any of the targets they did successfully hit.

The simplest explanation--Occam's razor being sharper than Hanlon's--is that the country that has repeatedly

- Threatened to target the families of 'enemies'

- Boasted of their accurate weaponry

Fired their accurate weaponry at a target consisting of the families of those they think of as enemies.


Not to mention how it seems to be standard practice to bomb weddings that one military commander happens to be attending.

The US has found out that it can commit war crimes as much as it wants, and nobody is going to stop it.


You've never met a stupid employee who doesn't use all of the tools available in their organization?

Decisions are made by people, not by countries. People have limited capacity in their wetware and frequently take shortcuts in their work, particularly if they are just doing a job and face little personal consequences for lazyness.


I've met all kinds of people, but the most likely explanation for people doing something they said they were going to do and had the capability to do is that they did it.

Twisting yourself in knots to pretend it's more likely that the US has paid no attention to Iran for 13 years than it is that they did the thing they said they would is not rational.


No, it was just a certain country's tactic adopted by the US where you bomb then wait for first responders to help innocent victims of war then bomb them again increasing your murder count.

It's just a war crime. Try not to think harder than what it actually is.


It would make sense, but minutes later? Did the IRGC brass break out the infamous FTL dirtbikes?

Many of the families of the children at the school potentially worked at the military base the school was at.

Faster than light? Do you think they're living on Mars or something?

you are way to forgivining in how stupid the military is under current leadership.

This sounds like the same type of Israel apologism. "OK, well we kill a bunch of innocents, but they were related to all those evil people"


Israeli "Lavender" AI-assisted targeting was used with/in "Where's Daddy"[1] mode, which had several frameworks for using family to strike identified targets. One method is to liquidate the residence with maximum family members on prem, which had a high chance of drawing the target to the location where a second strike would have a high chance of lethality.

One aspect of Lavender that proved frustrating: the system identified so many targets that exasperated ground controllers eventually just ordered the equivalent of full on carpet bombing. When the whole building's showing up as red on your computer screen, I suppose that makes sense. From a particular perspective.

[1] I'm . . uh . . not making that up. That what is/was called. Undoubtedly it has a more digestible name now.


I didn’t read it as apologism, just a theory that it may have been done intentionally

People don't like thinking that a lot of good people can die from a mistake.

I don't think "They deliberately murdered 100 children to lure opposition military officers in for a second strike" is apologism.

playing tomorrow at the Internet Archive in San Francisco!

'IDF ordered Hannibal Directive on 10/7 — documents and testimonies, incl. the 7:18 a.m. Erez order (Haaretz)' https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-07/ty-article-ma...

'IDF: friendly-fire casualties on 10/7 won't be investigated — "immense and complex quantity" (Ynet)' https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rkjqoobip

'Apache pilots recount 10/7: ammo ran out, RTB to rearm, "sweeping permission" to fire inside Israel (Ynet)' https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/s1nch1cuc

'Pilot: "We had run out of munitions… flew to the base to refuel and rearm" over fleeing Nova cars (Ynet)' https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/rk5vuzk3ge

'"I choose targets where the chance I'm shooting hostages too is low… but it's not 100%" — Apache squadron commander (Mako/N12)'https://www.mako.co.il/pzm-soldiers/Article-199bdbb03215b810...

'IDF probe: hostage Efrat Katz likely killed by IAF helicopter friendly fire (Jerusalem Post)' https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-795543

'Same Katz finding in a right-wing outlet: "Hostage Efrat Katz was killed by IAF fire" (Arutz Sheva)' https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/387990

'Officers invoked defunct Hannibal Protocol; Hiram ordered tank fire on Be'eri house, 14 hostages, 13 killed (Times of Israel)'https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-officers-invoked-defunct-h...

'Police source: IDF helicopter "apparently also hit some festival participants" at Nova; police denied (Haaretz)' https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-18/ty-article/.p...

'Yedioth Ahronoth's "28 helicopters emptied all ammunition, hundreds of 30mm shells and Hellfires, renewed runs to rearm" — carried verbatim by ABC News'https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/israel-hannibal-direc...


These supports my argument more than yours. You are posting confirmation of what im saying and articles that are speculation and out of context quotes or complete rejections of the claims you are making.

The Russians have learned from the best.

Look up how successful the US has been in getting right wing crazy people elected as the heads of state in nearly every Central and South American country by funding right-wing groups, with the exception of Mexico and Brazil (but top minds are working on this).


Russia has been trying to get locals to elect governments on their side and even revolt and destroy their own countries to do so ... since 1917. They used the red army to make this happen in most of Eastern Europe, half of Asia, Africa, South America, Middle America ... and they're still at it in quite a few places (like Africa). They fought until their state collapsed to change the government in Afghanistan.

Just because the US does something bad, does not mean others don't do 100x worse. In both meanings of the word.


> Middle America

I thought I loved Red Dawn, I rewatched it recently, it's really stupid.


Some of us regretfully pay for the New Yorker.


What year did the internet routing around failure work?


dont forget Autonomy !


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