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Dropbear has been created in 2002.

From the project ChangeLog:

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[..]

0.28 - Sun Apr 6 2003

- Initial public release

Development was started in October 2002

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..why is it surfacing now on HN? O_o


I mean it's good to remind people of older and less-known projects, but Dropbear is quite common for embedded Linux applications.

OpenWRT uses it for example.


Hey, I'm one of the "night owl" people type.

I've always been since when I memory of.

If you're reading this and you are interested in more data for studies or experiments to challenge my chronotype, let me know.

Tried many different method and nothing really worked. If not forced out of bed I'd wake up past 12AM and go to bed around 4AM.

Working as a remote for a different time zone helps a lot with work, luckily :)

Well hit me up if you want to know more.

I can probably do an AMA if people are interested enough.


You've probably tried many things, but just curious: have you tried melatonin (and if so, what was the result of that)? I've had some or other form of sleep and/or sleep time window issues since early teenage years or possibly before as well; regular exercise and (some form of) diet helps, but what really changed sleep for me (and therefore had a measurable impact upon my quality of life) was melatonin (I have a strong aversion to the idea of regular use of sleeping pills). It's used by jetlagged people to reset circadian rhythm, etc. (See e.g. https://www.gwern.net/Melatonin)

Apologies if this is nothing new at all to you (probably not), but interested in what you think re. this (perhaps melatonin does not help at all in your case, which is also interesting in itself).


I tried melatonin and it was awful :D I did it in the wrong way though. Specifically I took two pills instead of one (I think it was 500g each and I took two) and I slept for about 24 hours straight! I simply couldn't stay awake so I just took one sick day at work and sleeped it off :O

I also don't like the idea of building my life on top of regular pills usage, unless it's the only way to go through.

I don't exercise regularly, but I have such a busy life that I find it really difficult to find time (and consistency) to stick to it. When I DID exercise regularly (daily, 30-45 minutes, for about 4 months) it didn't change my sleep habits.

And to be honest I CAN wake up at 7 - 8 AM if somebody kicks me out of bed or if there's an "emergency" (like one of my children shouting for help or crying) or some family appointments... but I'm referring specifically to natural sleep rhythm or what my body would "like" to do.

I also somehow find it WAY easier to wake up when I'm NOT at home.

On an interesting note, I live in Italy (UTC+1) and when I went to San Francisco (UTC-7) for work, not long ago, I kept waking up at 7AM consistently, naturally and went to bed around midnight more or less. I felt NO JETLAG AT ALL. When I came back, I felt nothing for two days and then I had to sleep for about 12 hours to catch up the normal sleeping rhythm, then I went straight back to my normal habits.

I admit I probably have the weirdest sleeping habits I can know of :)


Hmm very interesting! Thanks for sharing. :)

> I think it was 500g each and I took two

I do hope you meant mg, not g - I've seen (usually American) online malatonin pills with 50g+ dosages (effective dosage seems to usually be within the range of 0.3-1.0g), so could be g :O but hope not. 0.5-1g does the trick for me, fwiw.

> I also don't like the idea of building my life on top of regular pills usage

I hear ya; the reason I'm ok with melatonin is that there appear to be no tolerance buildup, addiction, or any actual effects specific to long term usage (see Gwern's meta-analysis of literature, etc.) But - yeah.

Very interesting sleep time window patterns. Have you thought about consulting professionals re this? See e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_sleep_phase_disorder


> I do hope you meant mg, not g

ahaha XD Yeah sorry. one pill == 500mg :D

> Have you thought about consulting professionals re this?

I did but since I found a way to accomodate my schedule (more or less) by working in the afternoon and evening and sleeping through the morning (til about 10.30 or 11 AM) I'm fine for now.

I'd be more interesting in the CHANGE itself.. like in experimenting on changing my sleeping habits, more than in the results.

I'm a tech/sci/IT nerd afterall :P


In my case, melatonin has been wonderful for rested sleep, but it always results in increased hunger and weight gain, which is why I discontinue it after about a month, when my pants start getting tight. Then I repeat the cycle when I'm feeling not well rested again.


\o/ congrats people!

Always reassuring seeing a security audit on such an important piece of software as a potential SSH-substitute.

Great job on the ARM support too. Now where's that Raspberry Pi I had around... :)


Awesome article!


geez if that's life my daytime is all screwed up :>


hey there, it's Lele from Italy and I'm 28.

Looking for remote, continous cohoperation at first and full-time onwards.

I'm a 7+ yrs senior sysadmin really passionate about almost anything related to: - linux sysadmin tasks (mail, DB, backup, networking and so on) - NodeJS development .. still learning, but already have lots of "secret" active projects :)

My competencies are: - senior linux sysadmin - senior networking / security experience - good to senior knowledge of Win* && Mac* sysadmin tasks - noob to good knowledge of JS (nodeJS), Java, Ruby, Python, PHP, shellscripting

..as a side note I'm also passionate about CG (blender fan here), Arduino related projects, RPG and gaming industry.

drop me an e-mail at lele [at] amicofigo [dot] com


agree. Also I once worked in a mobile software house where we made a symbian version of a "secure phone call" software and the guys who were working on it were literally going nuts thanks to the Symbian SDK&API. Go Android.. as sad as it sounds, Google (and luckily the community) is our only hope


Well.. first of all you should definitely say what you would really need in a laptop: - portability? - low weigth? - big screen? - very long usage during the day? (8hrs/day) - brand preference? - buy online? buy locally? where?

budget under $400 is quite low but something should come out anyway


Something fast, light in weight, and screen doesn't matter as long as it is not 10 inches.

I'll be willing to purchase it locally (Walmart, Target, etc).


Then go to the nearest store you have, take down a list of all the models you think could be worth the money they cost. Plus one or two you think are "a little" too expensive.

After this, come back and say us which are the models you are interested so we can help you build a comparison. ;)


Please, when "publishing" your offer state if you would consider some kind of remote working too. Thank you


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