Thank you for your comment! It was useful. Found this that helped me look through the signs

https://www.reddit.com/r/SDAM/comments/nkolwi/my_attempt_at_...

Now half of HN will self-report SDAM. /s

Or at least they will intend to but never get round to it.

It's insane, right? Reverse engineering is so much fun, I find myself doing it on random apps so often now

it's especially fun when you do it yourself, I advise toying around with https://crackmes.one. with time and practice, everything becomes open-source because you can read assembly XD

Not legally, which is the issue. I can "open source" Windows 11 and rip out some of the shittiness, but Microsoft is gonna take issue. If it were MIT licensed that would be a different story, but there isn't enough money for lawyers in the world where it's not.

Reverse engineering is legal in the US. You just can't disseminate the results if it runs afoul of copyright law or patents.

who said that you still technically cannot disseminate the results? bulletproof hosting and private communications still exist. if law is being used to harm the consumer, the consumer in question has full moral right to speak out against it, and taking ownership of your hardware (like OP tells they did) is one of the best ways

I believe you are responding to somebody commenting on the legal restrictions rather than the technical ones. It appears that you may have hallucinated the word "technical" in your response.

I know enough people for whom this risk is the entire appeal

So what? Just be mindful of what you post on the clearnet. What you're doing is like worrying about the illegality of making sparkler bombs in your backyard IMO.

0x Alpha is unlimited free tokens this weekend so I had it take apart the original 8088 PC Elite and reverse it back to original MASM assembler and come up with plausible names for all the functions and data structures and check that it compiles back to byte-perfect original.

Wild!

We're entering an age where doing binary modification on live binaries is not a huge deal. Everything is now open "source"?

What is it called when there's a process that's available to individuals but is long and onerous and cannot be shared among them? Saying the binaries are open source now means that the work of reverse engineering will be repeated exactly in proportion to the number of times it's modified. I would argue on a large scale this is still effectively closed source.

Binary patches aren’t illegal right? How would they be?

I'm not a lawyer. But I think if your "binary patch" is a series of instructions to write specific code to specific locations in a binary file, and the patch itself doesn't include any of the code present in the original binary, making/distributing a binary patch can't possibly be copyright infringement.

It's normal in the videogame ROM hacking community to distribute this kind of binary patches (known as IPS patches) so as to avoid legal trouble, since the binary patch is useless if the user doesn't have access to the original videogame ROM. Distributing the ROM or even its patched version would be illegal, but a patch of the kind I mentioned is fine.

That’s my understanding too, and it’s essentially how modded Minecraft servers work

CFAA and friends (in the US, at least) means that even things you might not otherwise expect are illegal get turned into super illegal.

Binary patches are probably fine to make, but to distribute them for other people's binaries is probably not.

More like mildly illegal. Seems on par with torrents to me.

I would move the quotes to "open" since the issue of licensing is still left. Although LLM providers have shown that they don't care about copyright so it should go both ways.

Quotes for all of it, it's a closed binary that is transparently user modifiable these days I guess, so "open" "source".

agreed with "the final step". I worry adding commands like these might affect quality of responses at each step, which then stack up to result in an overall worse outcome.

This whole thread is what the original post arrives at too, including ASD-STE100.

Probably because they skew towards higher information density

"LemonLime bills itself as a no-code AI startup, not to be confused with the hundreds of startups building something similar."

Ouch

20 games, of 104? Not to mention games were played in indoor air conditioned stadiums.

MLS already has a system where a game has a break only when it reaches 28deg C for a period of x minutes

Not to mention that they played games in the afternoon which isn't the best time for heat, and for a pure water break, 90 seconds is probably enough.

Anthropic was asked to pay book authors because it trained on pirated downloaded books.

What about books and art where the author/artist does not authorise AI to train on it? They do happily train on it, ignoring their "ToS".

This is just double standards, a slap on the wrist to not worsen the situation with authors imo.

You could also say the Chinese companies are doing the same - they _do_ pay for their Anthropic subscriptions after all.

>Anthropic was asked to pay book authors because it trained on pirated downloaded books.

No, it was asked to pay book authors because it pirated copies of books and stored them on their hard drives. The ruling had nothing to do with training.

Thanks - I didn't verify this personally, but still stand corrected.

If training wasn't considered outside the law, this goes on to make the point about double standards for US vs Chinese model training methods.

Pirating millions of dollars worth of books would land people in jail. Government went after Aaron Scwartz for "pirating" scientific journals.

Aaron Schwartz was re-publishing the journals, which is the core concern or copyright and indeed where the word "copyright" comes from. Anthropic could get in a lot more trouble if their models are caught reproducing copyrighted work from their training set wholesale.

I think the Aaron Schwartz case is incredibly vexing because he was obviously acting out of a sense of altruism without personal self-interest. I don't think he deserved the book getting thrown at him like that. But the whole copyright system, which people seem to think is simultaneously good and bad, kinda rests on not allowing those kinds of violations

I've linked this several times, but LLMs are capable of reproducing entire books. Researchers were able to extract books nearly verbatim: https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.02671

I didn't think about this parallel, but that's just so sad.

Nice work!

It was always this way!

Yeah weird, bc I just checked and it isn't oss. Only the SDKs are OSS, which...doesn't help much