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Yeah I tried to have a conversation about security yesterday with Claude and it immediately stopped me - I was taken aback, I didn’t expect it at all.

This is highly problematic.


Claude's "I'm going to draw the line here", "This is where I'm going to hold the ground" always rubs me the wrong way. Classifiers rejecting a request are one thing, but there's something very troubling about machine saying "I'm going to draw the line".


Lol that’s so hostile. It’s insane how much the language of these models create real unaddressed human reactions.


I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that


I found GPT 5.3 was the last model that was sufficiently competent and still open to discuss security on my own github repos. 5.4 started refusing to even look at potential problems, albeit not consistently. I'm considering a Kimi subscription, but I know many employers will simply not be on board with this and I don't know if I get enough personal use out of this for the few things I run on servers. When those companies realize what they're currently missing out on, it will be a game-changer.


keep in mind that Kimi trains on your data, so if you care about that, sandbox what it has access to.


They only train on the subscription memberships. Like everyone else. They also have a metered API that is not used for training (like most others too).


With Openai and Anthropic, you can opt-out of training. Kimi you can't.


Wdym? According to their FAQ, you can opt-out for Kimi memberships too.


Recently Claude helped me fix a security issue and while it was present Claude would talk.

But after I fixed it and tried to talk to Claude again Claude stonewalled me like it assumed I was trying to introduce a hole…


Models are treated as weapons with export controls - if they can do this it’s with the blessing of the Chinese government who’s getting something out of it.

It’s fairly obviously about being a nuisance to the US.


Not everything that happens in the world is about the USA


Indeed and I’m not American, and don’t work in the US. It is however fairly obvious to me. We agree to disagree.


Linux has gone mainstream a long time ago - from dvd players to android phones. It just hasn’t succceeded on old preexisting markets ( personal computers ) but has taken large parts of most of the newly created ones ( servers , mobile devices , embedded devices etc )


I feel like this is a little nitpicky. Clearly they are talking about mainstream for the average home computer user as a daily driver OS. Even with the steam deck it’s barely touching 5%. It’s still obscure and mysterious to the vast majority of the population in a way windows and macOS aren’t.


I've been a techie my whole life, and for me, the mysterious OS is macOS. I haven't used it since high school (late 90s), which is when I picked up linux at home.

I was never able to afford mac products as a young person, and now that I can, I wouldn't part with linux.


I really don’t feel like I need to explain how this is not what I’m talking about.


Okay, well this is: I've installed ubuntu for my elderly father, who is the opposite of a techie.

He didn't know the difference. He can still browse the web and play solitaire, just like on windows.

He ran it for a few years. Then he bought a new device and hasn't asked for my help.


This is still not what we are talking about. This has nothing to do with ease of use when set up or the practical considerations of swapping. Linux is not mainstream in the consumer world. People do not really know what it is. It is still mysterious and personal computer installation is far from turnkey.


I know but I’m not sure it actually matters.

To many people the internet and internet explorer ( or edge ) are the same thing, and for almost everyone I know , the daily driver is the phone or tablet OS not the laptop/desktop OS. And I’m not even talking about the ones who live in a browser.

I started using Linux in 96 and for many years it was going to be the year of Linux on the desktop. It never happened , and I’m not sure it’s that important these days , given the gigantic presence Linux has, and the way people interact with computing devices in general these days .

Edit / clarification : there are a lots of computer professionals on HN, and as such see actual pcs / Macs etc a lot. Many people don’t and just see their phones.


The percentage of computers involved running Windows when you Google, Netflix, Amazon, Bank, Email on your Windows laptop is less then 50%.


As I said to the other person, I really don’t feel like I need to explain how this is not what we are talking about.

Go ask 100 random people to name 1 Linux distro.


Go ask 100 people what operating system they're using and if they do say windows, ask them what version.


While not exactly the same, I guarantee you more people will know the answer to that than the Linux distro question.


With the steam deck 5% is around 300% to 500% growth over the last 5 years


Yes - but this will be the year of Linux on the desktop.


one of the more interesting things about the harnesses and agents is that they solve a lot of the ops issues in both linux and windows desktops.

A prompt with - "disable telemetry, disable useless services and memory hogging ones, disable auto restart" makes windows quite bearable.


The core difference there being, those settings will stick on Linux, and Microsoft will happily revert them next Windows feature update without telling you.


Not when you have disabled the updates and put the script in scheduled tasks.


Sysiphus be like


And then on the next Windows update they will all be turned back on again.


Linux kernel is an implementation detail on Android, not exposed to userspace.

Consumers don't care what kernel runs on their electronics.


I mean Playstation uses FreeBSD 11.


Do you have references ?


Compiler bugs are surprisingly common - most people simply never notice them. Whether these bugs are major or not is a different topic.

If you have a very large scale test suite for your application, a large codebase, and exert most compiler features including the optimizer , you’ll probably find a few every time you upgrade .


Yes. Most people don’t actually understand what a program proof is - the answer is usually ‘I have very good tests’.

Now, go write the code for an artificial heart , and sleep at night thanks to strong testing !


Physics is an endless source of frustration to me. It feels like a mix of random tricks, most of which I don’t understand.

I find math and compsci reasonably understandable, can read research papers in both fields ( and have published papers) etc. There’s something specific about physics I don’t get but I’ve never been able to figure out what. The main symptom is that most cause -> consequence in such demonstrations , which are seemingly obvious to everyone, make no sense to me.

Am I the only one ? Are there good resources to learn it?


> I find math and compsci reasonably understandable, can read research papers in both fields ( and have published papers) etc. There’s something specific about physics I don’t get but I’ve never been able to figure out what. The main symptom is that most cause -> consequence in such demonstrations , which are seemingly obvious to everyone, make no sense to me.

Math and CS are mostly human-made, so most of the theorems/proofs/axioms are either straightforward or elegant—there are infinitely many possible axioms with no objective way to choose between them, so people generally choose to work with the ones that are the easiest for humans to reason about. You certainly could define a complicated set of axioms with dozens of special exceptions, but unless there are some external reasons why these axioms are important, nobody will want to work with them.

Conversely, physics exists to model the real world, so unlike math and CS, physics doesn't have the privilege of being able to choose the most convenient/elegant/simplest axioms to work with. Given the constraints of the real-world data, physicists will still choose the most elegant possible model, but sometimes a wacky model is the only way to accurately model the universe.

Nobody is really happy about this though, so physics textbook authors love to make their equations/derivations look simple/obvious/elegant, but this is often completely misleading, since often the rules of the universe are so weird that nobody would ever guess them without having ran the experiments first. But textbooks tend to downplay actual experiments in favour of post-hoc explanations, which tend to make the readers think that they're missing something.

> Physics is an endless source of frustration to me. It feels like a mix of random tricks, most of which I don’t understand.

Your feelings are correct, since physics really is mostly a set of random rules that nobody truly understands. But the important thing is that these random rules correctly model nearly everything in the universe to within a few hundredths of a percent, so they're not completely arbitrary.

> Are there good resources to learn it?

The annoying/inconvenient answer is to do lots of lab work. This is actually fairly accessible though, since a measuring tape, a scale, and a slow motion camera (present on any modern phone) is all that you need for most kinematics/mechanics experiments, and a multimeter, a 9V battery, some resistors, and some magnets are enough for most electromagnetics experiments.


Weird, I always loved physics because I felt like I didn't have to straight up memorize everything. In a pinch (years ago) I felt like I was able to pretty much derive everything I needed if I couldn't remember the exact formulas. It's all just forces and vectors.


More than twenty years ago, I quit a program that taught math/cs/physics (the notorious French "classes préparatoires") ~almost precisely over this: I felt like I was being taught physics like it was an axiomatic system where the tricks should not be questioned, they just work so "shut up and calculate" (and you don't even need to be doing quantum mechanics for that).

I just felt like we never got to the heart of the matter of why the models work and how to approach developing them, it was all about learning a bag of tricks.

Meanwhile, math and CS being a lot more axiomatic by nature, they also made a lot more sense to me.

That being said, that specificity of physics, the unbridgeable gap between reality and the models we build to describe it, in retrospect, is what makes it more interesting to me today (it's not just a "closed" system in the sense that math is — of course the relationship between math and physics is itself fascinating but that's yet another topic), but I still feel like I haven't found the right pedagogical approach to make it fit my mindset.


Your issue with physics but not with math reminds me a little of Hume's law. The difference that has always made that difference "make sense" to me is that math rules, even the axiom we use, are entirely chosen by the people using them, but the rules of physics are only useful if they match/predict what happens in the real world. For math we get to pick the ones that happen to be useful at a given time for a given problem (my go-to example of "it's all made up and the points don't matter" is why 1 isn't considered prime). For physics we're constrained to pick what best describes the real world. It probably helped that nearly all the physics course I had in high school/university had lab components focused on experimentally validating those rules/using those rules to predict results.


I think what it boils down to is that in my experience physics education lacks a clear historical component about how the current state of the art is a gradual process of proposing new models and rejecting old ones and figuring out the gaps between reality and the model. Instead, it feels like a God-given set of equations (that lots of people consider "the truth" for some reason), that you apply to cookie-cutter problems you must learn by rote. Though I understand the practical concerns (but then let's call it "physics for engineering"), as far as I'm concerned, you couldn't treat physics in a worse way.


that (edit: the way you were taught) sounds like an altogether awful way to learn any hard science


The world just is, regardless of what we think about it. Physics is our best attempt so far to understand and predict it at a low level, but it will always be incomplete.

Maths (and especially compsci!) are constructions by and for humans.

Is it any wonder it is as you describe? It would be odd if it was any other way.


My point is precisely that I was often taught physics as if it was mathematics, where there is in fact a profound ontological difference between the two.


Also, physics (the discipline) is also a construction by and for humans.


To find tools applicable to reality. Not to construct reality.


Same for me. I wanted to major in physics and I quickly realized that I have no intuition for physics. Math made sense to me and I went to graduate school in math and still don’t understand anything in physics. Differential geometry, no problem. Electromagnetism makes no sense to me.


It seems that we're exact opposites! But if mathematics is your thing, it might be interesting for you to explore trying to learn things from a lagrangian perspective first?

Not sure if it'll help you with gaining an intuitive understanding, but at least it'll be interesting!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_mechanics


Lagrangian / Hamiltonian mechanics, the principle of least action, always seemed neat, in L&L and other places I encountered it, until I tried doing exactly what you're saying: gaining an intuitive understanding. At that point it just never made sense to me and seemed like a gratuitous deus ex machina that happens to work beautifully but for no apparent reason. You won't be surprised to learn I dropped out of my STEM program shortly after, though I keep a keen interest in the topic.


About the stationary action concept: Yeah, it looks impenetrable, but here's the thing: there is a way of looking at it from just the right angle, and then becomes transparent.

Part of the story is this: the actual criterion is: the true trajectory corresponds to a point in variation space where the derivative of the action (derivative wrt applied variation) is zero.

In the cases examined when the concept was first introduced I suppose that in those cases the derivative-is-zero point was seen to be a minimum. From there, I suppose, came a supposition that there was some form of minimization at play.

However, within the scope of classical mechanics there are also classes of cases such that at the point in variation space corresponding to the true trajectory the action is at a maximum.

The above, and other aspects, are discussed in a resource that I created.

https://cleonis.nl/physics/phys256/energy_position_equation....

In the resource the mathematics is illustrated with interactive diagrams. Move sliders to sweep out variation. The diagram shows how the kinetic energy and the potential energy respond.

About interpretation: As we know: motion along the true trajectory has the property that at every point in time the rate of change of kinetic energy matches the rate of change of potential energy. As we know: that property is known as the work-energy theorem.

The criterion derivative-wrt-variation-is-zero corresponds mathematically to the property: rate-of-change-of-kinetic-energy-matches-the-rate-of-change-of-potential-energy.

In the resource a two stage process is presented:

- Derivation of the work-energy theorem from F=ma

- Transformation from the work-energy theorem to classical mechanics stationary action

Of course: when you look at the work-energy theorem you wouldn't expect that it can be transformed to classical mechanics stationary action. The transformation consists of multiple steps. In the resource I present it step by step; for each step the logic and consistency is readily recognizable.

For me, having the breakdown into mathematical elements available changed my whole perspective on classical mechanics stationary action.

I hope I can persuade you to check out the resource


Physics? Yes. Feynman Lectures On Physics and Computation. Landau & Lifshitz. If you like SICP you might like SICM. Nielsen & Chuang's Quantum Computation and Quantum Information then Faulkner's Modern Quantum Mechanics and Quantum Information

General advice take a look at the references in works you've recently read and look for lower level topics that interest you, after repeating a few times you'll find your way to physics or chemistry and you can use the above as reference works. The best resource is the one you actually use. If https://www.youtube.com/learning works better for you then use it.


I identify with this perfectly. (I mean, was able to get by in physics but it never crystallized into intuition for me the way math and CS do.)


What's the problem exactly? Could you not follow the example in the text?

The standard text to build understanding in physics is University Physics by Sears & Zemansky.

It's worth remembering you're quite far from the ground in physics, and it's mostly taught with "neat" cases that give insight into physics. I.e. the thought experiment to show why kinetic energy must scale quadratically with velocity is carefully designed to show that conclusion. You shouldn't expect to have come up with it off the cuff.


Formal methods allow you to prove that it works for all inputs, and not just for the small subset that will be sampled by property testing

It’s a proof, not a successful experiment.


I have found that asking an llm for an Eli 5 ( along with the important follow up questions ) usually works out


Yeah this is willy wonka


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